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January 30, 2007

JS off?

JS off? The W3Schools site says that 10% of people on the web have JavaScript turned off. That seems high to me, and W3Schools doesn't describe their methodology. TheCounter also doesn't describe its methodology, but lists 5% as having old or no JS. Still seems high. The Yahoo Directory lists some more stats sites, but most don't attempt to measure JavaScript capability... StatMarket has gone behind a subscription wall... Google Zeitgeist removed browser stats awhile ago... I've trawled about two dozen search hits and none are current, many are 404. If JS-heavy sites actually turned away 5+% of their visitors then I would expect to have heard far more discussion of the subject. Do you know of additional references on how many people cannot use the browser scripting engines? Thanks in advance for any leads!

Posted by JohnDowdell at January 30, 2007 11:54 AM

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Many sites turn away a certain percentage of users by using Flash, so it's no surprise that they might use another technology to do the same.

Personally, I don't think I've ever seen a reported percentange lower than 3-5% for users with no JavaScript. That's purely from memory, but I think I'd actually be surprised to see only 1-2%.

Posted by: Josh at January 30, 2007 04:23 PM

for what it's worth (since it's only one site: my own), awstats reports that only 0.5% (one half of one percent) of my visitors have javascript disabled. awstats doesn't seem to report on javascript versions, though.

the lion's share of my traffic comes from myspace, so you might be able to extrapolate that cyberpet-loving myspace users have javascript enabled 99.5% of the time ;)

Posted by: bunnyhero at January 31, 2007 12:51 AM

What I suspect is happening is that stats packages are counting 'fake' or unknown userAgents that ignore javascript. By 'fake' I mean, bots that identify themselves as real browsers or are not as yet recognized as spiders and such and thus subtracted from visitor numbers.

One clue might be to compare the number, if given, of unknown browsers and OSen to the number of users reportedly surfing sans-javascript. A quick look at my blog's AWStats reports for the last two months show a suggestively close relationship between the numbers:

Dec 8.1% disabled - 3.8% unknown browser - 6.3% unknown OS

Jan 3.7% disabled - 3.7% unknown browser - 2.9% unknown OS

Over the holiday break I implemented some blocking measures to the more aggressive link/trackback farmers, which may help explain the difference between Dec and Jan.

A client's high-traffic site also uses AWStats (as a backup for SiteCatalyst) and before the site became Akamaized, consistently showed 0% disabled(!) with below 1% numbers for unknown OS and browser. (now shows 20% unknown for both browser and OS, which prob is Akamai; still 0% Javascript incompatible, though). The site offers nothing of use to link farmers and so may be avoiding unidentified bot traffic.

Just a guess.

Posted by: Lewis Francis at January 31, 2007 10:07 AM

Occurs to me that another variable to consider might be RSS feed presence. Aggregators and consumers may not all be recognized UA and OS, and if RSS feeds are counted as visitors, this could skew results. I also upgraded AWStats over the break (includes new RSS UA in the bots db) and this could further factor into the Dec/Jan differential.

Posted by: Lewis Francis at January 31, 2007 10:31 AM