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November 21, 2007

Zoho, Flash

Zoho, Flash: I posted a comment at a blog, but it was flagged as spam, and so am reposting it here. The folks at Zoho do their work in JavaScript, which is great, but I added some additional info and resources on Flash and browsers. No biggie, just getting it into the public record.

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Hi, here are some additional resources for each item which may be of interest:

(1) The different browsers have supported common extensions for as long as they've supported JavaScript. The current popular browsers all now can have JavaScript communicate with plugins, and also allow overlays for non-rectangular displays. They're improving their integration capabilities.

(2) Check out the overall efficiency and scope of various frameworks atop each runtime.

(3) SVG convergence has indeed increased. You can find current runtime capabilities here:
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Test/20070907/matrix.html

(4) ... and shared capability of current HTML/JS mobile runtimes here:
http://www.w3.org/2007/03/mth/harness

(5) Application startup time is a great metric to track, thanks. You may be thinking of Flex 2 applications, which did indeed preload a full interface framework to the client. Flex 3 changes this. For current benchmarking of in-browser application startup times, check out James Ward's excellent testing application:
http://www.jamesward.org/census/


"we will use Flash when appropriate, but at this point, Javascript is getting better faster!"

I think the opposite would make a better case, but that's your decision to make. Thanks for letting me post some additional resources here.

jd/adobe

Posted by JohnDowdell at November 21, 2007 07:30 PM

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Zoho guys might want to keep an eye on http://live-documents.com/

Live-Documents is using Flash/Flex. Sabeer Bhatia, one of guys behing Hotmail, is involved in this startup...

It's announced couple of days back:-

http://live-documents.com/company/news.html

-abdul

Posted by: Abdul Qabiz at November 22, 2007 04:42 AM

I use Zoho project extensively at work, and honestly the speed vary depending on how much time you use it... I often encountered major issue with query execution speed on Zoho.

Although I may agree that the whole program would launch faster than a Flex (2) Project but once loaded the Flex environment is much more faster and stable.

Posted by: Ahmet at November 22, 2007 07:47 AM

Abdul : Thanks for pointing us to Live Documents.

Ahmet : Nice to know that you are using Zoho Projects. Sorry about the speed variations. We are continuously working on performance related issues and you should be seeing improved speed on all sorts of operations soon.

Posted by: Arvind at November 25, 2007 10:20 PM

What is with all the spam? Isnt there as way to filter the crap out

Posted by: Damien Swansea at November 26, 2007 05:42 AM